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How to cast a Talon RA Double Handed Overhead rod

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Index 1 Feet and Body
2 The DOH Grip and Lower Hand
3 Top Hand
4 Line Grip and Hand position
5 The Rules
6 Pick-up and Back cast
7 Forward and Back cast
8 The Shooting Cast
9 Other DOH subjects The LMD - Stripping basket
AND Stripping basket safety
Most suitable flies
Suitable Lines
 

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If there is anything that isn't clear, or requires more detail, please feel free to ask. The following instructions are for right Handed Casters.


9 Stripping Basket LMD

The Striping Basket for Overhead and Underhand casting.

For Double Overhead casting rods and their lines a stripping basket clipped to the waist is the most suitable, In fact it is a requirement.

This will help with distance casting, as the line has less distance to travel up to the first stripper guide, this line is a weight that has to be lifted into the rod's guide arrangement before travelling outwards.

Lifting this weight reduces line speed. Reduce the line speed, reduces the distance the line is cast. Therefore if the caster lifts the line closer to the rod, there is less weight to be lifted and therefore a longer cast can be achieved. These conditions apply equally to both Overhead and Underhand casting.

Tangles / knots in the running / shooting line?

These occur because of, and how to overcome the problem.

A The line has a preset twist.

B A twist is now been placed in the line, during the day or from the last day's fishing.

C The line is dirty or no slippery enough.

D The Stripping Basket is NOT FLAT enough.

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A The line has a preset twist.
This common problem occurred when you first removed the line from the factory coils.

Once there has been a set placed into the line, it is almost impossible to remove it.

To prevent this happening again. With your new line still in the factory coils. Place a plastic soft drink bottle inside the coil of line, attach one end, and unwind the line, slowly, by rotating the bottle and line. Then, lay the line out straight, (one end should be still attached), with your hand slowly run it down the line, this is without applying very much pressure to the line, the coils will now start to be uncoiled and run to the end of the line.

Repeat the procedure at least 3 times. Then apply some pressure to the line and repeat the straightening process.

Allow the line to lay on the floor and relax. Then, with the end still attached, pull the other end, till tight, and hold the pressure for at least 3 minutes, this preset the memory into your new line. Now rewind the line onto your fly reel.

B A twist is now been placed in the line, during the day or from the last day's fishing.

Unwind the line, remove the leader and or the head, then attach one end of the line and run a soft cloth down the line a number of times, till the coils unwind. The cloth is sprayed with Mr. Sheen polish, the red can, will lubricate and polish the line at the same line.

C The line is dirty or no slippery enough.

Please clean your running line every 4 to 6 hours of usage, if you are trying to obtain the maximum in perform and therefore the best possible distance cast.

Because of the distance your line is now being cast, which is further than a little 9foot rod cast, by the average caster and most, if not all 9 foot casters, your line is travelling further in the water, hence a greater chance of picking you rubbish, even in clean blue Ocean water.

Lines that are dirty also grab one another as you cast, once they grab, they attempt to lift one another, then another loop, result a tangle. Clean lines because they are slippery, slip off the next loop and don't attempt to lift the next loop, hence greatly reduced tangles.

When cleaning the line, clean your rod, because as the line races into the first stripping guide and the next, a harmonic wave is formed, most times this wave will touch your rod, this contact is in effect a plastic to plastic contact, which grabs and attempts to hold your line, which reduces the lines speed, less speed, less distance cast.

Polishing the complete rod and all the guides does make a very noticeable difference and is most noticeable when casting over 130feet.

D The Stripping Basket is NOT FLAT enough.

If your stripping basket is not flat, that is, the perfect Stripping Basket/LMD
has a flat floor and is at right angles to the caster, eg horizontal .

Dipping or slopping downwards, these types of Stripping baskets only produce tangles, as they must because the line will form coils as it lays in the basket, these coils then quietly slip into the next coil, disaster, another monster tangle.

The use of cones or spikes can be avoided and will be, with a flat basket, no spikes and things, means the line leaves the basket smoother and therefore faster, and again, a faster line travels further.

To help produce a flat Stripping basket, we recommend a extra strap be introduced to the basket, this is connected to the front and then placed over the casters shoulder and looped onto the rear waist strap, with quick release clips attached. The Talon WMD Stripping Basket.

Most suitable Flies, for long range Overcasting.

There is only one group of flies that fits this application perfectly, that's the Deceiver type.

This group of flies also includes some of the Tarpon type flies, like the Cockroach types. The reason why the above group of flies has been suggested is because of their ability when wet to fold down in a streamlined shape when cast and reshape into pattern when they are under the water.

Coupled to the fact that the fly's action comes from long'ish feathers trailing behind the main body, these rather simple construction ideas appear to resist destruction by the ultra high velocity of the shooting head when constantly being cast over 120feet, hour after hour.

By all means, you can you can use any fly you wish to, however the Deceiver types just last longer and cast further than most.

DO NOT use Clouser type flies.

Because of the speed that the fly travels at when cast from a DH Overhead rod, a faulty cast when using a Clouser type fly will smash your rod!

A bead headed nymph type of fly will do the same thing. In the place of these types of flies, use a sinking tip connected to your head or use a sinking shooting head.

 

Casting a Double Handed Overhead rod, the results !

A Jew/Kob 'grassed', from the South Coast of New South Wales, Australia, by Dave Longin.
Rod, a Talon RA WMD Double Handed 14 foot 9/10w

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